Lee Ann Ochs is married, has six kids including one who has had daunting media bills, and she is the co-owner of Level-Up STEM KC, with her husband, Rob, who is ex-military. Together, they add a lot of goodness to the world. How do they do it all?
The well-read Sam Dierberger joins me to discuss his album, tell me some great stories, and he begins to explain what he really thinks about God. (This episode was recorded on Jan. 20, 2024.)